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nedofpies ([personal profile] nedofpies) wrote in [community profile] kore_logs2013-08-10 12:13 pm

when it's all said and done

Who: Ned and Daneel
What: The sun is down, the power is out.
Where: House 20
When: Day 100, twilight

The old adage about not knowing what you have until it's gone seems particularly relevant to Ned tonight. He'd thought things were bad enough with just the food shortage, just the lack of communication with the outside world, just the ignorance of where they are and who brought them here, just the occasional bout of horrific nightmares or monstrous transformations. Now, it would seem, they are going to have to learn to live without electricity, as well.

Perhaps, he thinks, walking back towards the house, it won't be permanent. Perhaps the power will be back in a few days and things will return to normal.

(But he'd heard stories from the older residents, about how the food used to be replenished. That had changed, and there were no signs of things going back to the way they used to be. So to hope for anything other than the worst possible scenario seems like foolish optimism, to him.)

Ned gets back a few minutes after the sun has set, as light is rapidly fading from the air. He lets himself inside and reaches for the light switch automatically, hand pausing halfway there to drop back down again. Under one of his arms is a bundle of wood, destined for the fireplace, if only he can manage to get it lit on his own. Ned can navigate easily enough - he has a good sense of the space and where things are that would get in his way - but once he's at the fireplace, he is at a bit of a loss. He has vague and distant memories of family camping trips when he was young, but it's been years and he doesn't remember much. How should he arrange the wood? How does he check that the chimney is open and he won't end up getting soot on everything?

There's a packet of matches in the hall, he remembers; perhaps it is best to start there.
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-15 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Is it? Daneel isn't sure how he would define beauty. That which is good, perhaps, and the fire is good, providing warmth and light and comfort for Ned, so perhaps it is beautiful. He wouldn't have thought of that description, though, that particular word.

He sits very near Ned, placing one hand on Ned's shoulder. "I am glad you find it soothing." "Soothing" is a much safer statement for him to make, compared with "beautiful." It's an incredibly human way of describing it, one that seems a little beyond him. "Is there something else I can do for you? I am... I am concerned. I wish you to be as comfortable as is possible right now."
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-15 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The question is irrelevant to him, but pointing that out... is awkward and unnecessary.

"I am well, Ned."

And more or less, he is. He's concerned for Ned, concerned for the outcome of the situation, but he himself? He's okay. It's those around him he's not sure about.

But with Ned a little closer, Daneel shifts to put his arm around Ned's waist -- carefully, in case it isn't welcome just now.

"I am properly functioning and we have solved the immediate problem that this outage provides. At the moment, that is a good thing."
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-16 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
"This is good of you," Daneel says at once, and without jealousy. "I have met Meyer, though not Charlie. He offered to teach me to play poker, but I declined. I can understand it must be difficult for him to cope, if they are friends. I am glad you are able to provide some comfort for him."

It triggers something he's been thinking of, something he's been reading of in the battered paperbacks he brought back from the library. He's been wondering how to apply this knowledge, but he seizes now upon the decision simply to ask.

"There is something I would like to ask you, Ned." And for once, he's not asking if he can ask the question; he's simply going to ask it, after announcing his attention and pausing long enough for Ned to interrupt and deny him. It's a small distinction, but an important one. "I have been researching human relationships, lately, and I have come to the conclusion that a major part of romantic relationships is the taking care of one's partner." A pause. "I don't mean to imply that this is your intention towards Meyer Lansky."

Though, truthfully, if it were, Daneel would gladly step aside.

"But it does seem that a major part of the the literature I have found consist of one party -- most typically a man -- takes care of and provides for the other party -- most typically a woman. Traditional gender roles are irrelevant in our case, of course, but the pattern remains. There is nothing I require for my own well-being, so that leaves me in the role of caretaker. At the same time, in this place I am not capable of providing for you the way is common in these books, and if I could, it would do you no good."

He is, unfortunately, very serious.

"I am concerned that my efforts will be insufficient, even if you don't believe this to be the case at present."
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Laughter is... not the response he expected. He looks at Ned evenly, rather confused. "Yes, I was. I wish for you to be happy, and I don't have the experience to ensure I am behaving appropriately for a romantic relationship."

It's simple in his mind, logical. Apparently he's wrong, too, so he's going to have to work out what he actually needs to do to accomplish what he means.

"If they are not meant to be taken as an example, then what is the purpose of them?" This is a valid question to him. Mere entertainment isn't a strange concept to him, but why should something be entertaining if it's so completely false?

Whatever his mistake is, though, at least it's somehow "sweet."
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-16 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
"Then what I took to be an example of typical relationships of a time closer to your own is a fantasy, meant to provide comfort when a better situation is not possible. I have made a great miscalculation."

That just strikes Daneel as very sad, a regrettable situation. If this is the truth, though, then neither possibility (either the one in the books or the one Ned describes) is ideal.

"What is ideal, then? If men wish for women to care for them, and women wish for men to care for them, then ideally in a relationship both parties should take the role of caretaker in equal measure. Is this correct?"

That seems very reasonable, a very simple solution for a thorny problem, but to his point of view there remains one complication.

"I do not need providing for, Ned, though it does please me that I am the object of such emotions from you. I do not need feeding or pampering, nor for you put all your needs, desires, and interests aside for me. I do not want that, and it would grieve me greatly if you did. Does this present a problem?"
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-17 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
He's... overthinking this. That's a problem, because thinking is far easier than simply feeling, particularly in these situations where he's so completely out of his depth. Thinking is clear, logical, and while it's inaccurate to say he doesn't have emotions, they are different, muted. It's obvious, though, that the issue is one of experience, not knowledge.

And experience often means making mistakes. These ones are of little import, but some could harm Ned, too.

"Thank you for being patient with me, Ned." Daneel gives a little a sigh, and leans over to give Ned a kiss. "I can see that I am making many mistakes, and for that I am sorry, but you are very important to me. I'm glad that I am able to make you happy. I am only trying to ensure that I remain able to keep you happy, but this is clearly not the way I should be going about this."
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-18 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)

Daneel considers the question for some moments, frowning faintly. A lot of the books seemed incomprehensible to him, in all honesty.

"I am not certain if this, too, is an artifact of the genre, but I find that there is a very large significance placed on being in a relationship and in the sex that occurs within it. For example, characters who are not in a relationship are questioned as to why they are not, and when they are, a major part of their relationship is how enjoyable sexual intercourse is."

He takes one of Ned's hands in his, holds it warmly.

"Do we have sex enough to satisfy you?"

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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-19 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
"It isn't in the least contradictory," Daneel says, emphatic in his promise. "I want you to be happy, Ned."

He slides his hand around Ned's face, around his cheek, and leans in to kiss him, gentle and tender. He doesn't want Ned to be embarrassed, either, though it's harder to do anything about that. "If you wish more, then I will gladly do what I can."

That this would happen some time was almost inevitable. That Ned is comfortable with the amount of sex is fine, but if he wants to do other things, then anything in his power to please Ned must be done, in an entirely unselfish way.

"What would you like?"
Edited 2013-08-19 06:54 (UTC)
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-22 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
"The piemaker who thought a humaniform robot was worthy of love," Daneel corrects, seriously. For him, it is a serious matter, something he still can't quite comprehend. He kisses Ned, very gently, cupping Ned's face in his hands before wrapping his arms around him. It's... bold, for him, but he's at least beginning to feel like has the... the right to choose to do so, to take the initiative.

"You can tell me later, in privacy, if that is what you prefer." Of course Ned can; anything that would make Ned happy is worth doing. In some ways, he orbits Ned, focusing on him, hovering around him and trying to please him. "You may tell me any time you feel comfortable doing so."

Daneel leans his head on Ned's shoulder. He remembers, still, the way Ned smelled, and he remembers it now.
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-23 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Daneel rises, taking Ned's hand -- though he has no need for the support. It's an entirely extraneous gesture, one only made out of affection. He takes Ned's hand because he wants to, no other reason.

Words seems peculiarly awkward, unnecessary, and he's silent as he walks the two of them down the hallway to the bedroom. Whatever else might be going on, they have each other -- perhaps a very unlikely couple indeed, but no less valid for that.

He waits for Ned to tell him what he has been thinking about, too patient to press the issue, but there's a curiosity in him, an expectation, and once they are shut away into Ned's room again, he bends to kiss him.
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porn warning :)

[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-23 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Daneel considers this question with customary gravity. There's nothing impossible about Ned's request, though it does involve a certain amount of caution. If Ned wants to try it, he can see no reason why not. Is it something he knows how to do? Yes, in theory. He's blind to this, but he will act as he has in the past: experimenting to see what pleases Ned best, because that's what it's about for him. It's all about making Ned happy.

He slides his hand along the curve of Ned's back, and he answers first with a kiss. "I can do this for you, if you're certain. However, we will require lubrication of some variety."

It's an important point, from his perspective. His hand comes to rest on the back of Ned's neck, and he kisses him again, delicate and careful.
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[personal profile] thezerothlaw 2013-08-25 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
"I see you did."

Daneel is... faintly surprised. That Ned was likely to have been working up to this question isn't hard to believe, but he hadn't expected this degree of preparation. He takes the bottle, looking it over, and considers. It will work. This is more than sufficient.

But he welcomes Ned back into his arms with a deep and tender kiss. There's a sense of... power, perhaps, that comes of being able to affect Ned like this, or perhaps for Daneel, to whom power means nothing, it's more akin to art. There's something of the artist in how he can strike a reaction from Ned with such a very small action, drawing happiness out of him like music from an instrument. Whatever it is, it's... compelling.

He peels Ned out of his clothes, his touch gentle. "I want you to be happy, Ned. I will stop at once if I realise I'm harming you, but you must communicate with me. I cannot -- I cannot think of bringing you discomfort."

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